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  "full_text": "This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Participant ID FJ-0620. I'm gonna set that there just to make sure that it hears you. Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Chloe: Yeah. So, , I said earlier, my name is Chloe. I'm a student here in the school of public health. Speaker 2: C-H-A-L-E-E? Chloe: C-H-L-O-E. Speaker 2: Chloe, yeah. Chloe. Chloe: Chloe. Yep. , and we are exploring views and perspectives about eye care and eye exams for individuals who have diabetes. , and we just wanna hear a little about- a bit about your eye related problems and visiting your doctor, that stuff. , this should take about 20 minutes, but your participation is completely voluntary. So if at any point you want to skip a question or you wanna leave, just let me know. That's fine. , and then at the completion of this, you'll get a $20 gift card to Kroger. Speaker 2: Okay. Chloe: , , for participating. And so the purpose of the project is to just better understand, , diabetes related eye problems that lead to poor vision, vision loss, that stuff. , and we're also gonna collect some of your clinical data. So your A-1-C, your cholesterol, blood pressure from your chart. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , just to give us a better understanding of things. And then the consent form that you have, that's gonna give you the contact information for Dr. Misra at the School of Public Health , and yeah. So do you have any questions before we begin? Speaker 2: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 1 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: No. Okay. So if you think of anything or , while we're doing it, if you wanna skip a question, anything that. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: So first we're just gonna ask some general questions. So what are some things you do each day that are related to your diabetes? So- Speaker 2: Well, I try to avoid bad carbohydrates. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And, , I try to eat as much, , fruit. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Not at night because fruit contains fructose, which is worse than glucose. It stay longer in your system, so I eat them in the midday if I can. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: And proteins. Chloe: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: Eggs. Meat. Chloe: Mm-hmm. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 2 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: And of course, salami, ham, whatever. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What do you think is your, , biggest priority for you in terms of your diabetes care? Speaker 2: Well try to keep my diet on one hand and I always took- take my pills. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: The highest priority actually is doing exercise. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Which I don't do too much. And that's very key in- in getting rid of glucose in my blood- Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Stream. Chloe: What are some things that you watch out for to , let that your diabetes is getting worse or to keep a heads up? Speaker 2: , I haven't measured in the last seven days, so I don't know, but I don't think it's- I always taking my medicine and I haven't felt anything. Chloe: Okay. Okay. Speaker 2: Out of the ordinary. (02:50) Chloe: , so speaking specifically about your eyes, how has diabetes affected your eyes, if at all? FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 3 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: Well, it didn't- it didn't. The- the- the problem that I have in my right eye was they told me that it was a vein in the back of the right eye that burst. Okay. Speaker 2: Okay. But then they did the exam on before that I have been to ophthalmologist and I didn't have any retinopathy at all. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: So the eyes were okay, but then I have this, according here, they told me, they still don't know. They checked my carotids. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: There was nothing in my carotid, so it wasn't that. So it was just out of the blue. Chloe: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: And, , screw up my vision, but have some vision. But thing happens, how it is. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: I'm sure diabetes didn't help. Chloe: , and what has your doctor told you about how diabetes, could affect your vision? Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dr. Zane Dennison. He's my particular, my, , my doctor in... He told me that. I knew from before that. Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 4 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: If you let it go, you want to go blind – terrible thing to face (04:05) is a horrible disease. Yeah. Where do you typically get your eye exams? Speaker 2: Here. Chloe: You do it here? Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: Okay. - Speaker 2: After- after I have this- No, wait a minute, what am I saying? It's- there is an ophthalmologist. What's his name? Kier, Kaur? Oh, my lord. I can't remember. The name of ophthalmologist is Tonya Umbel. She's ophthalmologist, not related to this. This the one who discovers certain anomalies. Chloe: Okay. And is that a primary- is that your primary- primary care? Speaker 2: For the eye? Yes. Until this happened. Chloe: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: Which I had to come here. Chloe: Okay. Okay. And when you get your eye exam, could you explain the usual steps or procedures that are taken for your exams? Speaker 2: Well, they put me some eye dilator and they put it in a machine and try to shake the pressure. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 5 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And thank God the pressure in my right- my left eye is normal. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: This one went from 25 last time to 23, which is good. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And the doctor recommended there some more drops. Chloe: Yeah. So you said that they dilate your eyes for the exams? Speaker 2: Yes. Chloe: Did you have that- were they dilated today? Speaker 2: They did dilated today. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Or maybe it was- it was another liquid. I really don't know. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Last time they dilated the hell of it. Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 6 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Okay. When was their last appointment? Speaker 2: Oh, it must have been a month ago, with a- Linda? and maybe... I can't remember. . Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 7 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Okay. And how often do you think you should have your eyes checked? Speaker 2: Probably given this problem, maybe once a year. Every- every 6 months. Chloe: Okay. - Speaker 2: And the diabetes, of course. Chloe: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So let's talk about a little bit, , about your visits, , to receiving eye care. What does the scheduling process look ? is it simp- do you have availability? , is it easy- Speaker 2: I always have variability because I'm retired. Chloe: Yeah. Is it easy for you to schedule here? Speaker 2: I to come. What? Say it again. Chloe: Is it easy for you to schedule? - Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy- easy to schedule, but not in the morning. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Afternoon, late afternoon. That's good for me. Chloe: And- Speaker 2: We driving from- from Clark* Clarksburg. So- Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 8 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Clarksburg. Yeah. You said you're from Lost Creek. , and what does your doctor's availability look ? Speaker 2: Okay, well, , during the winter, we couldn't come, we had to cancel certain appointments. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: They give the next one over and it was sometimes at 9 in the morning. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: And then at 10 in the morning. So, but that the winter is gone now we can do it anytime we want. This one today was at 1. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Then the next one with Linda is gonna be at 4. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And they one I have next month with (name?) I think it's a 2 or something. Chloe: Oh, okay. , so do you have any recommendations on the eye care that you receive? Speaker 2: Not really. It's been good. Chloe: Any suggestions? Speaker 2: No, the doctors have been very informative. Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 9 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. That's good. Speaker 2: And the nurses and everybody else. Great service. Chloe: That's good. Speaker 2: I have no complaints. Chloe: That's wonderful. Did you face any challenges in receiving eye care? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: No? Okay. That's good. , what are some ways that you take care of your eyes? Speaker 2: Who? What? Chloe: what are some ways you take care of them? So , do you wear- you said you had sunglasses. Speaker 2: , what I do, I have to take those drops. Chloe: The drops- eye drops? Speaker 2: A third drop from Dr. Hallander. Chloe: Okay. , do you give your eyes a rest when you're watching TV or anything that? Speaker 2: Sometimes. Chloe: Sometimes. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 10 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: I can notice I work a lot on the computer and, , I can notice that sometimes I have to squint to see something, which means this eyes already tired. So I go and take a nap. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And then it recovers. Chloe: That's good. That's good. , has your doctor explained the risk of vision loss or blindness due to diabetes? Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: They didn't have any retinopathy yet, but- Chloe: What have they explained to you? Speaker 2: Yeah, they have explained to me. Chloe: Anything specific you can- Speaker 2: No. , before the last exam that I have with this ophthalmologist- Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: They found a little bit of , hemorrhage, little tiny hemorrhage in the back of my right eye. Probably had to do with this crap now. Chloe: Yeah. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 11 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: But that was four years ago and then I went again and there was no retinopathy, nothing. Chloe: Well, that's good. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , how comfortable are you to talk about your diabetes-related eye problems or eye problems? Speaker 2: No, I don't have any. Chloe: You- you're pretty comfortable? Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable. Chloe: So if something were- Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: Okay. That's good. , can you think of an example when you felt you weren't able to express any concerns or worries with your doctor? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: No? Okay. That's- that's wonderful. Speaker 2: They say women talk too much. She look at me. They say women talk too much. Look at men. Oh, we talk about sport. Wow. It's the same shit. (Laughs). We all talk a lot. Chloe: Yeah. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 12 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Well, me for at least, I don't know about you. Chloe: I- I talk a lot. I would think so. , can you give an example of what questions you typically ask your eye doctor or your diabetes doctor? Speaker 2: Well, today I ask him if, , if there's gonna be some improvement. I know that this improvement is very slow. Okay. From a friend of mine told me that. He sees incremental improvement, but it's slow. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: So, and they know that. So- Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , how serious do you think diabetes can cause vision loss for you? Speaker 2: At this point? Not that serious. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: But you never know. Chloe: So in your opinion, how likely do you think you are to experience some either partial or full vision loss? Speaker 2: I wouldn't know. Maybe 50-50? Chloe: Okay. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 13 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: I really don't know. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: It's hard to tell. I mean, this thing with my eye came out of the blue. Chloe: Yeah. Yeah. , how would you describe your current vision? Speaker 2: It's good for what I do. I can watch TV with this patch here. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And, , I take my glasses- I put on my glasses to go during the computer. I can- I had to use my glasses to read books, but- so I'm doing fine. Chloe: Yeah. Have you noticed any changes in your vision, recently? Speaker 2: Not really. Chloe: Not really. Okay. ... Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a change of depth because this one is not work. Chloe: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: A tiny change of depth, . Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 14 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Sometimes I'm making something, I have to put something inside and- and I look and it's over here. Chloe: Oh, yeah. Speaker 2: So I had to squint again and there it goes. Chloe: Okay. And so what are some of- some of the eye conditions you're diagnosed with? You have glaucoma, right? Speaker 2: They haven't told me yet, officially. Chloe: They haven't told you? Okay. Speaker 2: No, they haven't said that. Chloe: Do you have dry eye or, - Speaker 2: No, I don't have any problem with dry eye. Chloe: Cataracts? Speaker 2: Cataracts. I was operated on a couple years back. Chloe: Okay. A while ago. Speaker 2: No cataracts. Chloe: , what about- what about any age-related eyesight decline, macular degeneration? Speaker 2: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 15 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. No. None of that. Does anyone in your family have glaucoma or diabetes? Speaker 2: Not that I know of. Chloe: Age-related? Speaker 2: My mother developed, , type two me. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Adult onset diabetes. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And my paternal grandmother had a leg amputated, which tells me that she had diabetes. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Very bad. So I was slated to have diabetes apparently by- and my father of course died an alcoholic at 41. Chloe: Yeah. Okay. , so how would you describe your experience with- your current- being di- diagnosed with your current eye issues and follow up, things that? Speaker 2: Well, it's good. Chloe: Good experience? Speaker 2: Yes. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 16 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Chloe: Okay. Do you feel you they provided information? Speaker 2: Yes. Chloe: Okay. That's good. , is there anything that discourages you to use healthcare services? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: No? Okay. , so can you think of a positive or negative experience with using healthcare services that has caused you to form the attitudes towards seeking eye or diabetes care that you had? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: Can't think of anything specific? Okay. , do you have any suggestions on what can help other patients have, , a better experience with using their diabetes or eye care? Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the patient too. Chloe: Okay. Yeah. Speaker 2: I mean, if you have type one diabetes and your eyes are going to pot, it's not too much that a doctor can do. Chloe: Yeah. It's dependent on the person. Speaker 2: Yeah. Depends on the person. Some person get mad because, well, you let it go for so long. This guy is not Jesus here. Chloe: (Laughs). Yeah. - FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 17 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: You may- may meet him soon. (Laughs). Yeah. , so do you have someone to help with your daily diabetes care? Speaker 2: Yes, my girlfriend. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Well, I- I'll do all that myself. I know what things to take and she tried to cook better for me. Salads and all that. I avoid- I avoided (stutters) . I- I- I started to get slap happy [inaudible 00:13:32]. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But I had to avoid spaghetti, potatoes and rice at night. They're really killers. Chloe: Yeah. , and do you have people to , share , any worries or fears about your diabetes that you have? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: share with them? Speaker 2: No. Interesting- no, they know I have diabetes. Chloe: Oh, okay. So you- but do you- would you feel comfortable sharing some- a worry with them if you- if it were to call out? Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Yes. Chloe: Okay. That's good. , and have you ever participated in a diabetes education class? FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 18 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: No. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 19 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: No. Speaker 2: I learn all by myself. I think I'm pretty well-versed, I hope. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 3: Sorry, excuse me. There's a lady out here, I don't know if you have room for her yet. She was in here before. She was in a wheelchair and she said she needed to complete the survey. Chloe: Yes. It will be , tell her literally five minutes. Speaker 3: Okay. Chloe: And then we're good. Thank you so much. Speaker 2: What? Chloe: We have another participant. Speaker 2: Oh. Chloe: - Speaker 2: Thought it was my girlfriend. Chloe: (Laughs). Okay. How much does your eyesight currently limit your ability to do things that you want to do? Speaker 2: Not really. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 20 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Not really? Okay. - Speaker 2: I have to be careful. Okay. Because, well, for example, , this is an anecdote. We have a cat, Lulu. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: She got pregnant. What a slut (laughs). Got three, two died and the other one survived. And you- I- I had to be very careful when I walk around because. Chloe: Don't step on- Speaker 2: Tiny. Chloe: A little cat. Yeah. Speaker 2: So , , that- but that's nothing. Chloe: Eh. Yeah. , so last question. What were your expectations for your visit today? Speaker 2: Well, I hope that my- the- the eye pressure will go down. I- it did now, . Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: It went from 25 to 23 now so, and , maybe I can recover some of my vision within, I don't know, the next five years. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: It's slow. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 21 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: , okay. Well that was all I have for you today. So do you have any questions or anything else you wanna share? Speaker 2: I'm good. Chloe: Okay. . FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 22 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com",
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    "This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Participant ID FJ-0620. I'm gonna set that there just to make sure that it hears you. Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Chloe: Yeah. So, , I said earlier, my name is Chloe. I'm a student here in the school of public health. Speaker 2: C-H-A-L-E-E? Chloe: C-H-L-O-E. Speaker 2: Chloe, yeah. Chloe. Chloe: Chloe. Yep. , and we are exploring views and perspectives about eye care and eye exams for individuals who have diabetes. , and we just wanna hear a little about- a bit about your eye related problems and visiting your doctor, that stuff. , this should take about 20 minutes, but your participation is completely voluntary. So if at any point you want to skip a question or you wanna leave, just let me know. That's fine. , and then at the completion of this, you'll get a $20 gift card to Kroger. Speaker 2: Okay. Chloe: , , for participating",
    "So if at any point you want to skip a question or you wanna leave, just let me know. That's fine. , and then at the completion of this, you'll get a $20 gift card to Kroger. Speaker 2: Okay. Chloe: , , for participating. And so the purpose of the project is to just better understand, , diabetes related eye problems that lead to poor vision, vision loss, that stuff. , and we're also gonna collect some of your clinical data. So your A-1-C, your cholesterol, blood pressure from your chart. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , just to give us a better understanding of things. And then the consent form that you have, that's gonna give you the contact information for Dr. Misra at the School of Public Health , and yeah. So do you have any questions before we begin? Speaker 2: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 1 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: No. Okay. So if you think of anything or , while we're doing it, if you wanna skip a question, anything that. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: So first we're just gonna ask some general questions. So what are some things you do each day that are related to your diabetes? So- Speaker 2: Well, I try to avoid bad carbohydrates. Chloe: Okay",
    "So if you think of anything or , while we're doing it, if you wanna skip a question, anything that. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: So first we're just gonna ask some general questions. So what are some things you do each day that are related to your diabetes? So- Speaker 2: Well, I try to avoid bad carbohydrates. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And, , I try to eat as much, , fruit. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Not at night because fruit contains fructose, which is worse than glucose. It stay longer in your system, so I eat them in the midday if I can. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: And proteins. Chloe: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: Eggs. Meat. Chloe: Mm-hmm. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 2 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: And of course, salami, ham, whatever. Mm-hmm. Yeah",
    "Chloe: Mm-hmm. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 2 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: And of course, salami, ham, whatever. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What do you think is your, , biggest priority for you in terms of your diabetes care? Speaker 2: Well try to keep my diet on one hand and I always took- take my pills. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: The highest priority actually is doing exercise. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Which I don't do too much. And that's very key in- in getting rid of glucose in my blood- Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Stream. Chloe: What are some things that you watch out for to , let that your diabetes is getting worse or to keep a heads up? Speaker 2: , I haven't measured in the last seven days, so I don't know, but I don't think it's- I always taking my medicine and I haven't felt anything. Chloe: Okay. Okay. Speaker 2: Out of the ordinary. (02:50) Chloe: , so speaking specifically about your eyes, how has diabetes affected your eyes, if at all? FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 3 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: Well, it didn't- it didn't. The- the- the problem that I have in my right eye was they told me that it was a vein in the back of the right eye that burst. Okay",
    "Speaker 2: Out of the ordinary. (02:50) Chloe: , so speaking specifically about your eyes, how has diabetes affected your eyes, if at all? FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 3 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: Well, it didn't- it didn't. The- the- the problem that I have in my right eye was they told me that it was a vein in the back of the right eye that burst. Okay. Speaker 2: Okay. But then they did the exam on before that I have been to ophthalmologist and I didn't have any retinopathy at all. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: So the eyes were okay, but then I have this, according here, they told me, they still don't know. They checked my carotids. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: There was nothing in my carotid, so it wasn't that. So it was just out of the blue. Chloe: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: And, , screw up my vision, but have some vision. But thing happens, how it is. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: I'm sure diabetes didn't help. Chloe: , and what has your doctor told you about how diabetes, could affect your vision? Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dr. Zane Dennison",
    "But thing happens, how it is. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: I'm sure diabetes didn't help. Chloe: , and what has your doctor told you about how diabetes, could affect your vision? Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dr. Zane Dennison. He's my particular, my, , my doctor in... He told me that. I knew from before that. Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 4 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: If you let it go, you want to go blind – terrible thing to face (04:05) is a horrible disease. Yeah. Where do you typically get your eye exams? Speaker 2: Here. Chloe: You do it here? Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: Okay. - Speaker 2: After- after I have this- No, wait a minute, what am I saying? It's- there is an ophthalmologist. What's his name? Kier, Kaur? Oh, my lord. I can't remember. The name of ophthalmologist is Tonya Umbel. She's ophthalmologist, not related to this",
    "- Speaker 2: After- after I have this- No, wait a minute, what am I saying? It's- there is an ophthalmologist. What's his name? Kier, Kaur? Oh, my lord. I can't remember. The name of ophthalmologist is Tonya Umbel. She's ophthalmologist, not related to this. This the one who discovers certain anomalies. Chloe: Okay. And is that a primary- is that your primary- primary care? Speaker 2: For the eye? Yes. Until this happened. Chloe: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: Which I had to come here. Chloe: Okay. Okay. And when you get your eye exam, could you explain the usual steps or procedures that are taken for your exams? Speaker 2: Well, they put me some eye dilator and they put it in a machine and try to shake the pressure. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 5 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And thank God the pressure in my right- my left eye is normal. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: This one went from 25 last time to 23, which is good. Chloe: Mm-hmm",
    "Chloe: Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And thank God the pressure in my right- my left eye is normal. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: This one went from 25 last time to 23, which is good. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And the doctor recommended there some more drops. Chloe: Yeah. So you said that they dilate your eyes for the exams? Speaker 2: Yes. Chloe: Did you have that- were they dilated today? Speaker 2: They did dilated today. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Or maybe it was- it was another liquid. I really don't know. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Last time they dilated the hell of it. Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 6 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Okay. When was their last appointment? Speaker 2: Oh, it must have been a month ago, with a- Linda? and maybe... I can't remember. . Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 7 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here",
    "Chloe: Okay. When was their last appointment? Speaker 2: Oh, it must have been a month ago, with a- Linda? and maybe... I can't remember. . Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 7 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Okay. And how often do you think you should have your eyes checked? Speaker 2: Probably given this problem, maybe once a year. Every- every 6 months. Chloe: Okay. - Speaker 2: And the diabetes, of course. Chloe: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So let's talk about a little bit, , about your visits, , to receiving eye care. What does the scheduling process look ? is it simp- do you have availability? , is it easy- Speaker 2: I always have variability because I'm retired. Chloe: Yeah. Is it easy for you to schedule here? Speaker 2: I to come. What? Say it again. Chloe: Is it easy for you to schedule? - Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy- easy to schedule, but not in the morning. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Afternoon, late afternoon",
    "Is it easy for you to schedule here? Speaker 2: I to come. What? Say it again. Chloe: Is it easy for you to schedule? - Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy- easy to schedule, but not in the morning. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Afternoon, late afternoon. That's good for me. Chloe: And- Speaker 2: We driving from- from Clark* Clarksburg. So- Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 8 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Clarksburg. Yeah. You said you're from Lost Creek. , and what does your doctor's availability look ? Speaker 2: Okay, well, , during the winter, we couldn't come, we had to cancel certain appointments. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: They give the next one over and it was sometimes at 9 in the morning. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: And then at 10 in the morning. So, but that the winter is gone now we can do it anytime we want. This one today was at 1. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Then the next one with Linda is gonna be at 4",
    "Speaker 2: And then at 10 in the morning. So, but that the winter is gone now we can do it anytime we want. This one today was at 1. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Then the next one with Linda is gonna be at 4. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And they one I have next month with (name?) I think it's a 2 or something. Chloe: Oh, okay. , so do you have any recommendations on the eye care that you receive? Speaker 2: Not really. It's been good. Chloe: Any suggestions? Speaker 2: No, the doctors have been very informative. Chloe: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 9 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. That's good. Speaker 2: And the nurses and everybody else. Great service. Chloe: That's good. Speaker 2: I have no complaints. Chloe: That's wonderful. Did you face any challenges in receiving eye care? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: No? Okay",
    "Chloe: That's good. Speaker 2: I have no complaints. Chloe: That's wonderful. Did you face any challenges in receiving eye care? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: No? Okay. That's good. , what are some ways that you take care of your eyes? Speaker 2: Who? What? Chloe: what are some ways you take care of them? So , do you wear- you said you had sunglasses. Speaker 2: , what I do, I have to take those drops. Chloe: The drops- eye drops? Speaker 2: A third drop from Dr. Hallander. Chloe: Okay. , do you give your eyes a rest when you're watching TV or anything that? Speaker 2: Sometimes. Chloe: Sometimes. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 10 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: I can notice I work a lot on the computer and, , I can notice that sometimes I have to squint to see something, which means this eyes already tired. So I go and take a nap. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And then it recovers. Chloe: That's good. That's good",
    "So I go and take a nap. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And then it recovers. Chloe: That's good. That's good. , has your doctor explained the risk of vision loss or blindness due to diabetes? Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: They didn't have any retinopathy yet, but- Chloe: What have they explained to you? Speaker 2: Yeah, they have explained to me. Chloe: Anything specific you can- Speaker 2: No. , before the last exam that I have with this ophthalmologist- Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: They found a little bit of , hemorrhage, little tiny hemorrhage in the back of my right eye. Probably had to do with this crap now. Chloe: Yeah. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 11 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: But that was four years ago and then I went again and there was no retinopathy, nothing. Chloe: Well, that's good. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , how comfortable are you to talk about your diabetes-related eye problems or eye problems? Speaker 2: No, I don't have any. Chloe: You- you're pretty comfortable? Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable. Chloe: So if something were- Speaker 2: Yeah",
    "Chloe: Well, that's good. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , how comfortable are you to talk about your diabetes-related eye problems or eye problems? Speaker 2: No, I don't have any. Chloe: You- you're pretty comfortable? Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable. Chloe: So if something were- Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: Okay. That's good. , can you think of an example when you felt you weren't able to express any concerns or worries with your doctor? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: No? Okay. That's- that's wonderful. Speaker 2: They say women talk too much. She look at me. They say women talk too much. Look at men. Oh, we talk about sport. Wow. It's the same shit. (Laughs). We all talk a lot. Chloe: Yeah",
    "Wow. It's the same shit. (Laughs). We all talk a lot. Chloe: Yeah. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 12 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Well, me for at least, I don't know about you. Chloe: I- I talk a lot. I would think so. , can you give an example of what questions you typically ask your eye doctor or your diabetes doctor? Speaker 2: Well, today I ask him if, , if there's gonna be some improvement. I know that this improvement is very slow. Okay. From a friend of mine told me that. He sees incremental improvement, but it's slow. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: So, and they know that. So- Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , how serious do you think diabetes can cause vision loss for you? Speaker 2: At this point? Not that serious. Chloe: Okay",
    "Speaker 2: So, and they know that. So- Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe: , how serious do you think diabetes can cause vision loss for you? Speaker 2: At this point? Not that serious. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: But you never know. Chloe: So in your opinion, how likely do you think you are to experience some either partial or full vision loss? Speaker 2: I wouldn't know. Maybe 50-50? Chloe: Okay. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 13 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: I really don't know. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: It's hard to tell. I mean, this thing with my eye came out of the blue. Chloe: Yeah. Yeah. , how would you describe your current vision? Speaker 2: It's good for what I do. I can watch TV with this patch here. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And, , I take my glasses- I put on my glasses to go during the computer. I can- I had to use my glasses to read books, but- so I'm doing fine",
    ", how would you describe your current vision? Speaker 2: It's good for what I do. I can watch TV with this patch here. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And, , I take my glasses- I put on my glasses to go during the computer. I can- I had to use my glasses to read books, but- so I'm doing fine. Chloe: Yeah. Have you noticed any changes in your vision, recently? Speaker 2: Not really. Chloe: Not really. Okay. ... Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a change of depth because this one is not work. Chloe: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: A tiny change of depth, . Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 14 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Sometimes I'm making something, I have to put something inside and- and I look and it's over here. Chloe: Oh, yeah. Speaker 2: So I had to squint again and there it goes. Chloe: Okay. And so what are some of- some of the eye conditions you're diagnosed with? You have glaucoma, right? Speaker 2: They haven't told me yet, officially",
    "Chloe: Sometimes I'm making something, I have to put something inside and- and I look and it's over here. Chloe: Oh, yeah. Speaker 2: So I had to squint again and there it goes. Chloe: Okay. And so what are some of- some of the eye conditions you're diagnosed with? You have glaucoma, right? Speaker 2: They haven't told me yet, officially. Chloe: They haven't told you? Okay. Speaker 2: No, they haven't said that. Chloe: Do you have dry eye or, - Speaker 2: No, I don't have any problem with dry eye. Chloe: Cataracts? Speaker 2: Cataracts. I was operated on a couple years back. Chloe: Okay. A while ago. Speaker 2: No cataracts. Chloe: , what about- what about any age-related eyesight decline, macular degeneration? Speaker 2: FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 15 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. No. None of that. Does anyone in your family have glaucoma or diabetes? Speaker 2: Not that I know of. Chloe: Age-related? Speaker 2: My mother developed, , type two me. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Adult onset diabetes",
    "None of that. Does anyone in your family have glaucoma or diabetes? Speaker 2: Not that I know of. Chloe: Age-related? Speaker 2: My mother developed, , type two me. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Adult onset diabetes. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: And my paternal grandmother had a leg amputated, which tells me that she had diabetes. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: Very bad. So I was slated to have diabetes apparently by- and my father of course died an alcoholic at 41. Chloe: Yeah. Okay. , so how would you describe your experience with- your current- being di- diagnosed with your current eye issues and follow up, things that? Speaker 2: Well, it's good. Chloe: Good experience? Speaker 2: Yes. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 16 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Chloe: Okay. Do you feel you they provided information? Speaker 2: Yes. Chloe: Okay. That's good. , is there anything that discourages you to use healthcare services? Speaker 2: No",
    "Chloe: Chloe: Okay. Do you feel you they provided information? Speaker 2: Yes. Chloe: Okay. That's good. , is there anything that discourages you to use healthcare services? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: No? Okay. , so can you think of a positive or negative experience with using healthcare services that has caused you to form the attitudes towards seeking eye or diabetes care that you had? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: Can't think of anything specific? Okay. , do you have any suggestions on what can help other patients have, , a better experience with using their diabetes or eye care? Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the patient too. Chloe: Okay. Yeah. Speaker 2: I mean, if you have type one diabetes and your eyes are going to pot, it's not too much that a doctor can do. Chloe: Yeah. It's dependent on the person. Speaker 2: Yeah. Depends on the person. Some person get mad because, well, you let it go for so long. This guy is not Jesus here. Chloe: (Laughs). Yeah",
    "Depends on the person. Some person get mad because, well, you let it go for so long. This guy is not Jesus here. Chloe: (Laughs). Yeah. - FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 17 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: You may- may meet him soon. (Laughs). Yeah. , so do you have someone to help with your daily diabetes care? Speaker 2: Yes, my girlfriend. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 2: Well, I- I'll do all that myself. I know what things to take and she tried to cook better for me. Salads and all that. I avoid- I avoided (stutters) . I- I- I started to get slap happy [inaudible 00:13:32]. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But I had to avoid spaghetti, potatoes and rice at night. They're really killers. Chloe: Yeah",
    "I- I- I started to get slap happy [inaudible 00:13:32]. Chloe: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But I had to avoid spaghetti, potatoes and rice at night. They're really killers. Chloe: Yeah. , and do you have people to , share , any worries or fears about your diabetes that you have? Speaker 2: No. Chloe: share with them? Speaker 2: No. Interesting- no, they know I have diabetes. Chloe: Oh, okay. So you- but do you- would you feel comfortable sharing some- a worry with them if you- if it were to call out? Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Yes. Chloe: Okay. That's good. , and have you ever participated in a diabetes education class? FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 18 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Speaker 2: No. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 19 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: No. Speaker 2: I learn all by myself. I think I'm pretty well-versed, I hope. Chloe: Okay",
    "FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 19 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: No. Speaker 2: I learn all by myself. I think I'm pretty well-versed, I hope. Chloe: Okay. Speaker 3: Sorry, excuse me. There's a lady out here, I don't know if you have room for her yet. She was in here before. She was in a wheelchair and she said she needed to complete the survey. Chloe: Yes. It will be , tell her literally five minutes. Speaker 3: Okay. Chloe: And then we're good. Thank you so much. Speaker 2: What? Chloe: We have another participant. Speaker 2: Oh. Chloe: - Speaker 2: Thought it was my girlfriend. Chloe: (Laughs). Okay. How much does your eyesight currently limit your ability to do things that you want to do? Speaker 2: Not really",
    "Speaker 2: Oh. Chloe: - Speaker 2: Thought it was my girlfriend. Chloe: (Laughs). Okay. How much does your eyesight currently limit your ability to do things that you want to do? Speaker 2: Not really. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 20 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: Not really? Okay. - Speaker 2: I have to be careful. Okay. Because, well, for example, , this is an anecdote. We have a cat, Lulu. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: She got pregnant. What a slut (laughs). Got three, two died and the other one survived. And you- I- I had to be very careful when I walk around because. Chloe: Don't step on- Speaker 2: Tiny. Chloe: A little cat. Yeah. Speaker 2: So , , that- but that's nothing",
    "And you- I- I had to be very careful when I walk around because. Chloe: Don't step on- Speaker 2: Tiny. Chloe: A little cat. Yeah. Speaker 2: So , , that- but that's nothing. Chloe: Eh. Yeah. , so last question. What were your expectations for your visit today? Speaker 2: Well, I hope that my- the- the eye pressure will go down. I- it did now, . Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: It went from 25 to 23 now so, and , maybe I can recover some of my vision within, I don't know, the next five years. Chloe: Yeah. Speaker 2: It's slow. FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 21 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Chloe: , okay. Well that was all I have for you today. So do you have any questions or anything else you wanna share? Speaker 2: I'm good. Chloe: Okay. ",
    "Chloe: , okay. Well that was all I have for you today. So do you have any questions or anything else you wanna share? Speaker 2: I'm good. Chloe: Okay. . FJ0620 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 22 of 22 Transcript by Rev.com"
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