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  "full_text": "This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: SM 1021. Okay. So, first we're just gonna talk about some general questions in regards to taking care of your diabetes. So, what are some things that you do each day that are related to your diabetes? Speaker 2: I, I try and watch what I eat. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Try and stay away from a lot of sugars, and I drink, , a lot more water than I used to. . Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: The zero Gatorades and the zero sodas. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. , okay. And so what do you think is your biggest priority in taking care of your diabetes? Speaker 2: Cutting out sweet tea and things that. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: That helped a lot. Speaker 1: Okay. , and some things that, that, what are some things that you might watch out for, to, to let you know that maybe your diabetes is getting worse? Speaker 2: , frequency of the restroom at night. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 1 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , confusion. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Sometimes. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I work with a guy that he has the same, pretty much the same diabetes I have. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And I notice him when he, I think he's had too much, I tell him and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And he, , reminds me, we try and keep each other in check, so. Speaker 1: That's good. , it's nice to- Speaker 2: But we, we do, we both have the same thing if we're having issues, remembering things or something. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: That we, maybe we've, , had too many muffins or something that. Speaker 1: (laughs) Does it make, , your diabetes care a little bit easier knowing that there's someone there at work to , check, check you if you're out of- Speaker 2: Yeah. A little bit. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 2 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Okay. , and did you just recently start doing that or has that been something that you... Speaker 2: , probably more recent, probably in the last couple months maybe. Speaker 1: Okay. That's good though. It's good to have someone, at least having similar experiences with you, , , around you at times. , do you think that diabetes has affected your eyes specifically? Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure that's what happened with- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: With, , , in the past. Speaker 1: Yeah. And what specific changes have you noticed? Speaker 2: With my eyes? Speaker 1: Yeah. With your eyes. Speaker 2: Well, I said, my, my retina was detaching in my left eye. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So the thing is, is if I close my right eye and I look out my left. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: From here over, I'm pretty good. But towards my, the, the center. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 3 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: It just gets it a, a darker shadow and people disappear. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Okay. Speaker 2: So, I mean, that's, , and I have to, I'm a little bit more vigilant when I'm driving and- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: All that thing. Even in steps. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. When did you notice that these changes were happening? Speaker 2: , it's probably been a year. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Year, year and a half ago maybe. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: That's when, well, they, I, I'm sorry, I'll take that back. Probably closer to two years. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , I had, I was driving my girlfriend's new car and we were going , and I, I kept seeing , some floaters that were really bad. Speaker 1: Yeah. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 4 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: And, , within three days. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I could hardly see outta my left eye. Speaker 1: Mm. And were you able to express the, those issues with your doctor? Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Speaker 1: And what did they say about that? Speaker 2: They, they said that it was my sugar diabetes, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: They blame everything on sugar, which I, I said it, I'm sure that had a big hand in everything. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , but, , they tested my A1C and all that, and it was seven. So I mean, it's- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But beyond that, . Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Years before, I'm sure it was, , at, at one time my A1C was 12 or something. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 5 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , so it wasn't good in previous years before that. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But after... I keep saying it, but after I gave up drinking, , Dr. Pepper's and, , whatever, and all the sweet tea that I was drinking, , that, , things started improving. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And whenever I tried to cut out a lot of my potatoes that I ate or- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I used to drink a good bit of milk. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , of course all the breads and pastas and stuff. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , but mostly it was the drinks. The drinks are terrible for you. Speaker 1: Yeah. , and so going back to eye care, where do you typically get your, y-, your eye care at? Do your eye exams? Do you do them here? Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Dr. G. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 6 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Okay. , and then when you're going in for an eye exam, could you just describe the usual steps that are taken throughout the exam? Speaker 2: Well, the, it, it's not really an eye exam per se. It's, it's a pre-thing, because I come to them to get those injections. Speaker 1: Okay. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So what they do is they, they bring me in, they, , talk to me, they get the eye pressures. They, , and every three months or so. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: They have, , taken pictures, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But, , mostly they just do my pressures and then, , look up my eyes and stuff, and they dilate things. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And they, but every time I come in, they have me, , read the eye chart. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: So I, I, I have a, it is hard for me to say, yeah, I should come in once a, once a year. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because they do it. They were doing it once a month. Now it's gonna be every two months, . SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 7 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And, , do you get your eyes dilated in your exams? Speaker 2: I do. I get 'em dilated and they numb them because they're gonna do the, the, the shots. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And they, , they also put the, the Betadine in. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: To try and hopefully I won't get an infection in my eyes. Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you, were they dilated today? Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, yes. Speaker 1: Okay. , and so what was your experience with getting your eyes dilated? Speaker 2: The dilation's fine. Speaker 1: That's fine? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , the numbing stuff bothers me a little bit. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 8 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: , but, , the injections, they just plain hurt. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: People say there's no pain in your eyes because you don't have a nerve. No, you get pain in your eyes. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: That's why they numb it. And sometimes it works fine, and I don't feel it. And other times, today it was just, it's just awful. Speaker 1: Mm. Speaker 2: , and sometimes it has to do with, , if I catch a glimpse of the needle coming at me. Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah. Speaker 2: That doesn't do anything good for me. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And I cannot get, , I, they can't do laser on me. I'm an uncooperative patient. I, I, I just... Speaker 1: You, you're not interested in laser? Or- Speaker 2: It, it, I can't. Speaker 1: Oh. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 9 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Keep my eyes open for them to do it. Speaker 1: (laughs) Speaker 2: , I'm very, my, my eyes have always been very sensitive. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: To light and, , whatever. I've always tried to wore, , up until the last probably six or seven years. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I always wore more expensive sunglasses. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I, I tried to take care of my eyes that way and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And I just got to where I couldn't afford to buy, ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: A hundred and some dollar sunglasses or, or more. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I, I used to wear $300 or $400 sunglasses. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 10 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Yeah. , do, do you do anything else to take care of your eyes, supplements- Speaker 2: I try and wear a hat. Speaker 1: Multivitamins? Speaker 2: Keep, keep, , I, I don't, I, I buy multivitamins and I'll take 'em for a while. I'm just not good at taking pills or- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Or vitamins. Speaker 1: Do you have any eye drops? Speaker 2: I, I don't even really eye drops. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I mean, I, I, if my eyes are really dry. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I just try and use the, , artificial tears, ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. - Speaker 2: Nothing that's got any kind medicine in it. I don't, I don't want to do something that's gonna- Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 11 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Yeah. Speaker 2: Or use something that's going to, . , there's always a chance. I have been told that when you put something that in your eyes that you might get, , an infection or something. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: And I'm already, , having them put something in my eye- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I'm taking a chance that I'm not gonna get- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , thank you. Speaker 1: You're welcome. , do you give your eyes a rest when you're, , on the computer or watching TV or anything that? Speaker 2: I really am bad about that. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: See, I don't have TV in my house. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: I just, I used to use my iPad, but, , now I just use my phone. So that's where I get my entertainment from, I guess. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 12 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Okay. , and then, so going back to your visits, , to receive eye care. Speaker 2: -huh. Speaker 1: What does the scheduling process look for you? Speaker 2: I, I try to only do Fridays. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because it'll take me a day or two for, to recover from this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: , so it doesn't affect my work. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And I try and get it the last part of the day. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because usually I have my, , my girlfriend, she just works over at the Rock and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And if I get it during the last part of the day, I can usually have her take me home or take me to her house or, , whatever. Speaker 1: And does your doctor's, what does your doctor's availability look ? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 13 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Usually pretty good. Speaker 1: Okay. , and do you have any recommendations or, , anything that about the eye care that you receive? Speaker 2: No, not really. Speaker 1: No? Speaker 2: I mean, I, I, I feel they do what they can do for me, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I, I did have an issue the first time they, they operated on my eye. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: It healed badly. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: It actually healed with a, , a wrinkle. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: So if I would, hold on. I'm trying to open my eyes here. Speaker 1: (laughs) Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 14 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. So hold on. I'm sorry. Speaker 1: That's okay. Speaker 2: It, it's also bad if I keep my eyes closed forever, but it's easier for me to sit here right now in this light. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: So if I look at this straight edge on that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: If I close my right eye, it'll bend in a little bit. And so I see with a wrinkle. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: It's not quite as bad as it was, so I don't know what happened. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But it healed badly. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: So they put me back under a few months later. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And tried it again, and it didn't really improve too much. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 15 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Yeah. Speaker 2: He says that the shots and all that stuff will hopefully correct a lot of it, but- Speaker 1: Yeah. - Speaker 2: I just know that I'm gonna have this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , for a while. Yeah. And for the rest of my life. Speaker 1: What challenges do you face in receiving eye care? Speaker 2: Challenges? Just getting here and getting home. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Basically. But, - Speaker 1: Yeah? And do you, do you have any suggestions for improving the experience, the eye care experience? Speaker 2: Not really. Speaker 1: No? - Speaker 2: I mean, they try and make it as painless as they can, and I can tell he, he feels badly when my, you, he gives me a shot and it hurts, but... Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 16 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Yeah. , well, what has he told you specifically about the risk of vision loss or blindness due to diabetes? Speaker 2: I don't really think that we'd talk too much about it at all. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Really. I mean, he wants me to, , they, the course always wants you to try and keep up after your diabetes and stuff. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But I was put on Metformin right away. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And then they put me on, they, they tried some of those that ends with an ide. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And my stomach couldn't... Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 17 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Handle it. , even the, even the Metformin wasn't that great on my stomach. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , those once a week shots for it, I mean, it depends on what you eat. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Is how your stomach reacts. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And , it, , I wasn't thinking one day and I stopped and got McDonald's breakfast. And McDonald's, no matter what you get, I, I, I haven't had their salads, but I'm sure they're greasy too. Speaker 1: (laughs) Speaker 2: , if you eat greasy foods, then you can't control yourself. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: With the bathroom thing. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So I took myself off of those shots right away. Speaker 1: Okay. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 18 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Because I couldn't handle it. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I mean, I lost days of work because I couldn't... Speaker 1: Mm. That's not good. Speaker 2: Venture, far from the restroom, ? Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Speaker 2: , so that's not really something that I would, ... Say for somebody else to, to try, ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: I can't recommend it. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , the Metformin, I don't think that that's anything that anybody aught to be on either. ? They- Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: They, they say that it's something that, , you can get cancer from it or you can get whatever. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 19 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , I did better with... For me, watching and changing my diet. Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. So- Speaker 2: If I could stick with it completely, I really juice. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I really orange juice. I really apple juice, , all that, pineapple juice, I, I try and drink no matter what. I don't care. I'm gonna drink a can of, , in the, in the fall and winter when I get sick. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I'm gonna d-, because that has helped me. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Get over being sick. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I feel a diet. Speaker 1: Is the best. Speaker 2: Helps you more than the pills that just seem to mask what's going on. It's not healing me. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 20 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , that's what I feel if they could come up with something that would, ... Speaker 3: Oh. Speaker 2: What, what would the word be? Holistic, holistically, or... Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , if they can come up with something with your diet. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Or help make food, - Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Good, better food,. Speaker 1: -huh. Speaker 2: A little bit more accessible to people, and people could stick to it, I feel , , that would help more than, . Speaker 1: Yeah. I understand that. Speaker 2: The pharmaceutical end of it. Speaker 1: Do you think, , how serious do you think that diabetes can cause vision loss for you specifically? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 21 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Well, I said, I'm sure that's why what happened to me, , it's- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I wish that I'd have caught it. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Even six months before I did, or- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , a year. But... Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because I would definitely have just put myself on the wagon, , and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And did whatever I had to. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But... Speaker 1: And, . Speaker 2: Yeah. What was it? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 22 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask, do you have any other conditions? do you have, , did I, do you have glaucoma or- Speaker 2: Not that I know of. No. Speaker 1: dry eye. I think you said you had dry eye. Right? Speaker 2: I get, my left eye. Speaker 1: -huh. Speaker 2: Especially, I to sleep with a fan. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And if I don't pay attention, if I have the fan, right on me- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: It drys my eye out quick. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Okay. Speaker 2: , I take care of, well, I usually take care of two houses, so my girlfriend's house and mine, I cut, I have to cut the lawn. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Both of 'em and all that. When I'm out in the sun a lot and I'm on the mower. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 23 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I get, my eyes do get a little bit dryer that way. Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. , and does anyone in your, in your family have any, , diabetes or glaucoma or a- a age related eye- Speaker 2: My dad did. Speaker 1: Your dad did? Okay. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: ... Speaker 2: I mean, mom had diabetes and she wore glasses and stuff. , my grandmother, she had diabet- well, no, my, my mom's mom had diabetes. - Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And my uncle, my, my dad's brother, he had. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , all that. Speaker 1: Okay. , so how would you describe , your overall experience with being diagnosed with, oops. Being diagnosed with eye issues and just the exams and follow-ups and things. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 24 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. They're fine. They're not anything that... I said, the only thing that really bothers me is having these dang shots. Speaker 1: Yeah. , would you say that, that discourages you from using healthcare services related to your vision? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? Is there anything that discourages you from using, , vision-related healthcare services? Speaker 2: , not, not the, the, the vision stuff's fine. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , I, I, it's accessible enough to me that I can get over here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , they, I said, they've done all that they can do, , as far I feel it anyways, I hope. Speaker 1: Yeah. - Speaker 2: Hope they didn't have some nanobot or something that could've went in there and cured everything I had, but- Speaker 1: Yeah. Some new technology. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 25 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: , could you share a positive or negative experience about using healthcare services that maybe has formed your attitudes towards seeking eye care? Any specific experience you can recall? Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I, I feel Dr. G cares. Speaker 1: Okay. That's good. Speaker 2: And that he's, he's very confident in what he does. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , he, he tries to be accommodating Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. - Speaker 2: So I mean, in that aspect, , everything seems good. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I said, other than, the only thing that really ever discouraged me was I was hoping that this eye would be, , fixed. Speaker 1: Yeah. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 26 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: After that first, , even the second surgery. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And the fact that I can't do the laser thing. I'm sure that can, that would help. And then he told me, he says, \"Well, if they ever have to go back in and do anything, that's when they're gonna have to do it.\" Because when I'm under in twilight, , they, . Speaker 1: Yeah. - Speaker 2: Which I, I woke, I woke completely up whenever they were the first time they did my, they, I, I worry that that was what happened with my, , that wrinkle thing, 'cause I, I woke up, I knew what was going on, and I just- Speaker 1: Wow. Speaker 2: I just tried to lay there and let them do what they were doing, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Did you have any sensation at all, or were you just awake? Speaker 2: Yeah, I, I knew what was going on and I could feel stuff and- Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , felt somebody was handling my eyeball, but I don't think that's what was happening. But, , and finally I thought, well, I better let 'em know what was going on. And I'd, I'd been listening. Some of the conversations they have in the, in the operating room is , , and this one lady was talking about a date she was gonna have and all that. And I just, I, I was probably out just enough that I just felt free to say whatever I wanted to say. And I, and I, I said, \"So what's everybody else doing this weekend?\" ? And they were , \"Oh, you calm down. It's okay.\" Yeah. I was , \"I've been awake for 10 minutes.\" Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 27 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: That's interesting. And he goes, \"I'll try and hurry up.\" But he, , I said, \"Well, don't hurry.\" ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But yeah, of course I couldn't see anything 'cause I don't know if it was from the Betadine or them doing the laser stuff on me or what, but- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Everything just looked purple, ? But. Speaker 1: Okay. That's interesting. , so do you, , do you have someone to help you with, your daily diabetes care? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? Do you feel confident that you could, , you're doing it well on your own, ? Speaker 2: Well, I try. Speaker 1: Okay. (Laughs) . Speaker 2: I mean, I could do a lot better. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: Usually I eat trash at night, but when I'm at work. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 28 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I mean, I, I have a full kitchen of stuff for myself. I give groceries for work. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: And then I take something home to eat. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: And if I forget, then I'm stopping at Sheetz, or I'm stopping at, , something I'm bringing home hot dogs or- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , something, , tacos or something. But when I'm at work, I try and have, , some salad and I buy rotisserie chicken meat and things that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: So something that I can try and eat a vegetable. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I, I have a garden, so I try and- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Include cucumbers in there, 'cause I love pickles, so I make a lot of bread and butter pickles or, , dill pickles or whatever. And I, , always have carrots and things that. I, I, I eat a lot of carrots and it's not really helping my vision. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 29 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 30 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. (laughs) Speaker 2: But I mean, it, it, I'm sure it's doing, it, it, it probably is helping me more than, , I know. Speaker 1: Yeah. , well, what about , sharing, sharing any worries or fears about your diabetes or eyesight? Do you have someone that you feel comfortable doing that with? Speaker 2: Just Ed at work. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: We talk about stuff that a lot. Speaker 1: That's great. That's good that you, , have someone. Is that the, the guy that is also going through the same? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Okay. Good. , so have you participated in a diabetes education class or ... . Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? , how much does your eyesight- Speaker 2: YouTube, maybe. Speaker 1: YouTube? Speaker 2: I, I do Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 31 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Self-paced class. Speaker 2: I do, I do watch a lot of, , or look up a lot of stuff about it, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: See if there's something that, that I would eat. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I don't avocados, but I guess they're probably pretty good for me that way. And- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I've been trying to eat more beets. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Because they tell me that those are good for my blood, my blood pressure. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: My blood sugar. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , all that. So everything falls back to food... Speaker 1: I think it falls back to food with most people. , how much does your eyesight currently limit your ability to do things you want to do? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 32 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say 40% of the time. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Because if it hadn't been for this, I, I was going to change jobs. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: But a lot of jobs that I could do because of my education, I can't do with my eyes where they are. Yeah. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Does that feel discouraging to you? Speaker 2: To a point. Speaker 1: To a Point? Speaker 2: I mean, with, as anybody would do, but- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: It's not , okay, I have nothing left, thing. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2: I, I have a decent job. I mean, I'm, I don't make a ton of money, but I mean, I'm, I'm okay. I'm comfortable enough that I'm- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 33 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , still alive. Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. , so just one more question for you. Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Speaker 1: , for today's visit, specifically, today's eye care visit, what were your expectations going in? Speaker 2: Get through it. Speaker 1: Get through it. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Speaker 2: It was nothing really, I mean, it, it's something that I have to do. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , it's just breathing. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: So, I mean, I, I know that I have to come in every month or every two months, and he told me no new bleeding, no, nothing that. Speaker 1: That's good. Speaker 2: That my eyes actually looked pretty decent for having gone. This was my first time going two months. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 34 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Instead of every month. And at one point it was when the month was almost up and I needed to come in Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I could see a decline. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: And now I'm, I didn't see a decline this time. Speaker 1: That's good progress. Speaker 2: And, and the time before that. So he said, \"Well, let's try every two.\" Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So I'm not having to come in every, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But, . Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, it's something that I have to do and I just know it, and I don't look forward to the needles. Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say so. Speaker 2: The rest of it's fine. I mean, even the pictures that blind me for a second, , they have this big flash that goes across and- SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 35 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: They want to hold on my eyelids and, . Speaker 1: Make it uncomfortable. Speaker 2: Yeah. It depends on who you, who you get that helps you. There was one woman, she, if it was up to her, she'd grab on my eyeball and aim it, . But- Speaker 1: , well, , that's all I have for you. Do you have any questions or comments or anything you'd want to include? Okay. Speaker 2: No, not really. Speaker 1: . SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 36 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com",
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    "This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: SM 1021. Okay. So, first we're just gonna talk about some general questions in regards to taking care of your diabetes. So, what are some things that you do each day that are related to your diabetes? Speaker 2: I, I try and watch what I eat. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Try and stay away from a lot of sugars, and I drink, , a lot more water than I used to. . Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: The zero Gatorades and the zero sodas. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. , okay. And so what do you think is your biggest priority in taking care of your diabetes? Speaker 2: Cutting out sweet tea and things that. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: That helped a lot. Speaker 1: Okay. , and some things that, that, what are some things that you might watch out for, to, to let you know that maybe your diabetes is getting worse? Speaker 2: , frequency of the restroom at night. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 1 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , confusion",
    "Speaker 1: Okay. , and some things that, that, what are some things that you might watch out for, to, to let you know that maybe your diabetes is getting worse? Speaker 2: , frequency of the restroom at night. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 1 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , confusion. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Sometimes. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I work with a guy that he has the same, pretty much the same diabetes I have. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And I notice him when he, I think he's had too much, I tell him and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And he, , reminds me, we try and keep each other in check, so. Speaker 1: That's good. , it's nice to- Speaker 2: But we, we do, we both have the same thing if we're having issues, remembering things or something. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: That we, maybe we've, , had too many muffins or something that. Speaker 1: (laughs) Does it make, , your diabetes care a little bit easier knowing that there's someone there at work to , check, check you if you're out of- Speaker 2: Yeah. A little bit. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 2 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Okay",
    "Speaker 2: That we, maybe we've, , had too many muffins or something that. Speaker 1: (laughs) Does it make, , your diabetes care a little bit easier knowing that there's someone there at work to , check, check you if you're out of- Speaker 2: Yeah. A little bit. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 2 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Okay. , and did you just recently start doing that or has that been something that you... Speaker 2: , probably more recent, probably in the last couple months maybe. Speaker 1: Okay. That's good though. It's good to have someone, at least having similar experiences with you, , , around you at times. , do you think that diabetes has affected your eyes specifically? Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure that's what happened with- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: With, , , in the past. Speaker 1: Yeah. And what specific changes have you noticed? Speaker 2: With my eyes? Speaker 1: Yeah. With your eyes. Speaker 2: Well, I said, my, my retina was detaching in my left eye. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So the thing is, is if I close my right eye and I look out my left. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: From here over, I'm pretty good",
    "Speaker 2: Well, I said, my, my retina was detaching in my left eye. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So the thing is, is if I close my right eye and I look out my left. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: From here over, I'm pretty good. But towards my, the, the center. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 3 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: It just gets it a, a darker shadow and people disappear. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Okay. Speaker 2: So, I mean, that's, , and I have to, I'm a little bit more vigilant when I'm driving and- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: All that thing. Even in steps. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. When did you notice that these changes were happening? Speaker 2: , it's probably been a year. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Year, year and a half ago maybe. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: That's when, well, they, I, I'm sorry, I'll take that back",
    "When did you notice that these changes were happening? Speaker 2: , it's probably been a year. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Year, year and a half ago maybe. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: That's when, well, they, I, I'm sorry, I'll take that back. Probably closer to two years. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , I had, I was driving my girlfriend's new car and we were going , and I, I kept seeing , some floaters that were really bad. Speaker 1: Yeah. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 4 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: And, , within three days. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I could hardly see outta my left eye. Speaker 1: Mm. And were you able to express the, those issues with your doctor? Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Speaker 1: And what did they say about that? Speaker 2: They, they said that it was my sugar diabetes, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: They blame everything on sugar, which I, I said it, I'm sure that had a big hand in everything. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , but, , they tested my A1C and all that, and it was seven. So I mean, it's- Speaker 1: Yeah",
    "Speaker 1: And what did they say about that? Speaker 2: They, they said that it was my sugar diabetes, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: They blame everything on sugar, which I, I said it, I'm sure that had a big hand in everything. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , but, , they tested my A1C and all that, and it was seven. So I mean, it's- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But beyond that, . Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Years before, I'm sure it was, , at, at one time my A1C was 12 or something. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 5 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , so it wasn't good in previous years before that. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But after... I keep saying it, but after I gave up drinking, , Dr. Pepper's and, , whatever, and all the sweet tea that I was drinking, , that, , things started improving. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And whenever I tried to cut out a lot of my potatoes that I ate or- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I used to drink a good bit of milk. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , of course all the breads and pastas and stuff",
    "Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And whenever I tried to cut out a lot of my potatoes that I ate or- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I used to drink a good bit of milk. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , of course all the breads and pastas and stuff. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , but mostly it was the drinks. The drinks are terrible for you. Speaker 1: Yeah. , and so going back to eye care, where do you typically get your, y-, your eye care at? Do your eye exams? Do you do them here? Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Dr. G. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 6 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Okay. , and then when you're going in for an eye exam, could you just describe the usual steps that are taken throughout the exam? Speaker 2: Well, the, it, it's not really an eye exam per se. It's, it's a pre-thing, because I come to them to get those injections. Speaker 1: Okay. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So what they do is they, they bring me in, they, , talk to me, they get the eye pressures",
    ", and then when you're going in for an eye exam, could you just describe the usual steps that are taken throughout the exam? Speaker 2: Well, the, it, it's not really an eye exam per se. It's, it's a pre-thing, because I come to them to get those injections. Speaker 1: Okay. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So what they do is they, they bring me in, they, , talk to me, they get the eye pressures. They, , and every three months or so. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: They have, , taken pictures, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But, , mostly they just do my pressures and then, , look up my eyes and stuff, and they dilate things. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And they, but every time I come in, they have me, , read the eye chart. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: So I, I, I have a, it is hard for me to say, yeah, I should come in once a, once a year. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because they do it. They were doing it once a month. Now it's gonna be every two months, . SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 7 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm",
    "Speaker 2: Because they do it. They were doing it once a month. Now it's gonna be every two months, . SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 7 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And, , do you get your eyes dilated in your exams? Speaker 2: I do. I get 'em dilated and they numb them because they're gonna do the, the, the shots. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And they, , they also put the, the Betadine in. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: To try and hopefully I won't get an infection in my eyes. Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you, were they dilated today? Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, yes. Speaker 1: Okay. , and so what was your experience with getting your eyes dilated? Speaker 2: The dilation's fine. Speaker 1: That's fine? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , the numbing stuff bothers me a little bit. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm",
    ", and so what was your experience with getting your eyes dilated? Speaker 2: The dilation's fine. Speaker 1: That's fine? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , the numbing stuff bothers me a little bit. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 8 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: , but, , the injections, they just plain hurt. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: People say there's no pain in your eyes because you don't have a nerve. No, you get pain in your eyes. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: That's why they numb it. And sometimes it works fine, and I don't feel it. And other times, today it was just, it's just awful. Speaker 1: Mm. Speaker 2: , and sometimes it has to do with, , if I catch a glimpse of the needle coming at me. Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah. Speaker 2: That doesn't do anything good for me. Speaker 1: Yeah",
    "Speaker 1: Mm. Speaker 2: , and sometimes it has to do with, , if I catch a glimpse of the needle coming at me. Speaker 1: (laughs) Yeah. Speaker 2: That doesn't do anything good for me. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And I cannot get, , I, they can't do laser on me. I'm an uncooperative patient. I, I, I just... Speaker 1: You, you're not interested in laser? Or- Speaker 2: It, it, I can't. Speaker 1: Oh. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 9 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Keep my eyes open for them to do it. Speaker 1: (laughs) Speaker 2: , I'm very, my, my eyes have always been very sensitive. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: To light and, , whatever. I've always tried to wore, , up until the last probably six or seven years. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I always wore more expensive sunglasses. Speaker 1: Okay",
    "Speaker 2: To light and, , whatever. I've always tried to wore, , up until the last probably six or seven years. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I always wore more expensive sunglasses. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I, I tried to take care of my eyes that way and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And I just got to where I couldn't afford to buy, ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: A hundred and some dollar sunglasses or, or more. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I, I used to wear $300 or $400 sunglasses. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 10 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Yeah. , do, do you do anything else to take care of your eyes, supplements- Speaker 2: I try and wear a hat. Speaker 1: Multivitamins? Speaker 2: Keep, keep, , I, I don't, I, I buy multivitamins and I'll take 'em for a while. I'm just not good at taking pills or- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Or vitamins. Speaker 1: Do you have any eye drops? Speaker 2: I, I don't even really eye drops. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I mean, I, I, if my eyes are really dry. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm",
    "Speaker 2: Or vitamins. Speaker 1: Do you have any eye drops? Speaker 2: I, I don't even really eye drops. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I mean, I, I, if my eyes are really dry. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I just try and use the, , artificial tears, ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. - Speaker 2: Nothing that's got any kind medicine in it. I don't, I don't want to do something that's gonna- Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 11 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Yeah. Speaker 2: Or use something that's going to, . , there's always a chance. I have been told that when you put something that in your eyes that you might get, , an infection or something. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: And I'm already, , having them put something in my eye- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I'm taking a chance that I'm not gonna get- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , thank you. Speaker 1: You're welcome. , do you give your eyes a rest when you're, , on the computer or watching TV or anything that? Speaker 2: I really am bad about that",
    "Speaker 2: And I'm already, , having them put something in my eye- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I'm taking a chance that I'm not gonna get- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , thank you. Speaker 1: You're welcome. , do you give your eyes a rest when you're, , on the computer or watching TV or anything that? Speaker 2: I really am bad about that. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: See, I don't have TV in my house. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: I just, I used to use my iPad, but, , now I just use my phone. So that's where I get my entertainment from, I guess. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 12 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Okay. , and then, so going back to your visits, , to receive eye care. Speaker 2: -huh. Speaker 1: What does the scheduling process look for you? Speaker 2: I, I try to only do Fridays. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because it'll take me a day or two for, to recover from this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay",
    "Speaker 1: What does the scheduling process look for you? Speaker 2: I, I try to only do Fridays. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because it'll take me a day or two for, to recover from this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: , so it doesn't affect my work. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And I try and get it the last part of the day. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because usually I have my, , my girlfriend, she just works over at the Rock and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And if I get it during the last part of the day, I can usually have her take me home or take me to her house or, , whatever. Speaker 1: And does your doctor's, what does your doctor's availability look ? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 13 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Usually pretty good. Speaker 1: Okay. , and do you have any recommendations or, , anything that about the eye care that you receive? Speaker 2: No, not really. Speaker 1: No? Speaker 2: I mean, I, I, I feel they do what they can do for me, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I, I did have an issue the first time they, they operated on my eye. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: It healed badly. Speaker 1: Okay",
    "Speaker 1: No? Speaker 2: I mean, I, I, I feel they do what they can do for me, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I, I did have an issue the first time they, they operated on my eye. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: It healed badly. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: It actually healed with a, , a wrinkle. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: So if I would, hold on. I'm trying to open my eyes here. Speaker 1: (laughs) Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 14 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. So hold on. I'm sorry. Speaker 1: That's okay. Speaker 2: It, it's also bad if I keep my eyes closed forever, but it's easier for me to sit here right now in this light. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: So if I look at this straight edge on that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: If I close my right eye, it'll bend in a little bit. And so I see with a wrinkle. Speaker 1: Okay",
    "Speaker 2: So if I look at this straight edge on that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: If I close my right eye, it'll bend in a little bit. And so I see with a wrinkle. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: It's not quite as bad as it was, so I don't know what happened. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But it healed badly. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: So they put me back under a few months later. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And tried it again, and it didn't really improve too much. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 15 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Yeah. Speaker 2: He says that the shots and all that stuff will hopefully correct a lot of it, but- Speaker 1: Yeah. - Speaker 2: I just know that I'm gonna have this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , for a while. Yeah. And for the rest of my life",
    "- Speaker 2: I just know that I'm gonna have this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , for a while. Yeah. And for the rest of my life. Speaker 1: What challenges do you face in receiving eye care? Speaker 2: Challenges? Just getting here and getting home. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Basically. But, - Speaker 1: Yeah? And do you, do you have any suggestions for improving the experience, the eye care experience? Speaker 2: Not really. Speaker 1: No? - Speaker 2: I mean, they try and make it as painless as they can, and I can tell he, he feels badly when my, you, he gives me a shot and it hurts, but... Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 16 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Yeah. , well, what has he told you specifically about the risk of vision loss or blindness due to diabetes? Speaker 2: I don't really think that we'd talk too much about it at all. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Really. I mean, he wants me to, , they, the course always wants you to try and keep up after your diabetes and stuff. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But I was put on Metformin right away. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Okay",
    "I mean, he wants me to, , they, the course always wants you to try and keep up after your diabetes and stuff. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But I was put on Metformin right away. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And then they put me on, they, they tried some of those that ends with an ide. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And my stomach couldn't... Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 17 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Handle it. , even the, even the Metformin wasn't that great on my stomach. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , those once a week shots for it, I mean, it depends on what you eat. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Is how your stomach reacts. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm",
    "Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , those once a week shots for it, I mean, it depends on what you eat. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Is how your stomach reacts. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And , it, , I wasn't thinking one day and I stopped and got McDonald's breakfast. And McDonald's, no matter what you get, I, I, I haven't had their salads, but I'm sure they're greasy too. Speaker 1: (laughs) Speaker 2: , if you eat greasy foods, then you can't control yourself. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: With the bathroom thing. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So I took myself off of those shots right away. Speaker 1: Okay. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 18 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Because I couldn't handle it. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I mean, I lost days of work because I couldn't... Speaker 1: Mm. That's not good. Speaker 2: Venture, far from the restroom, ? Speaker 1: Okay",
    "Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I mean, I lost days of work because I couldn't... Speaker 1: Mm. That's not good. Speaker 2: Venture, far from the restroom, ? Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Speaker 2: , so that's not really something that I would, ... Say for somebody else to, to try, ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: I can't recommend it. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , the Metformin, I don't think that that's anything that anybody aught to be on either. ? They- Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: They, they say that it's something that, , you can get cancer from it or you can get whatever. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 19 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , I did better with... For me, watching and changing my diet. Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. So- Speaker 2: If I could stick with it completely, I really juice",
    ", I did better with... For me, watching and changing my diet. Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. So- Speaker 2: If I could stick with it completely, I really juice. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I really orange juice. I really apple juice, , all that, pineapple juice, I, I try and drink no matter what. I don't care. I'm gonna drink a can of, , in the, in the fall and winter when I get sick. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I'm gonna d-, because that has helped me. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Get over being sick. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I feel a diet. Speaker 1: Is the best. Speaker 2: Helps you more than the pills that just seem to mask what's going on",
    "Speaker 2: But. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I feel a diet. Speaker 1: Is the best. Speaker 2: Helps you more than the pills that just seem to mask what's going on. It's not healing me. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 20 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , that's what I feel if they could come up with something that would, ... Speaker 3: Oh. Speaker 2: What, what would the word be? Holistic, holistically, or... Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , if they can come up with something with your diet. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Or help make food, - Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Good, better food,. Speaker 1: -huh. Speaker 2: A little bit more accessible to people, and people could stick to it, I feel , , that would help more than, . Speaker 1: Yeah. I understand that",
    "Speaker 2: Good, better food,. Speaker 1: -huh. Speaker 2: A little bit more accessible to people, and people could stick to it, I feel , , that would help more than, . Speaker 1: Yeah. I understand that. Speaker 2: The pharmaceutical end of it. Speaker 1: Do you think, , how serious do you think that diabetes can cause vision loss for you specifically? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 21 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Well, I said, I'm sure that's why what happened to me, , it's- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I wish that I'd have caught it. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Even six months before I did, or- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , a year. But... Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because I would definitely have just put myself on the wagon, , and- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And did whatever I had to. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But... Speaker 1: And, . Speaker 2: Yeah",
    "Speaker 2: And did whatever I had to. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: But... Speaker 1: And, . Speaker 2: Yeah. What was it? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 22 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask, do you have any other conditions? do you have, , did I, do you have glaucoma or- Speaker 2: Not that I know of. No. Speaker 1: dry eye. I think you said you had dry eye. Right? Speaker 2: I get, my left eye. Speaker 1: -huh. Speaker 2: Especially, I to sleep with a fan. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And if I don't pay attention, if I have the fan, right on me- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: It drys my eye out quick. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Okay. Speaker 2: , I take care of, well, I usually take care of two houses, so my girlfriend's house and mine, I cut, I have to cut the lawn. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm",
    "Speaker 2: It drys my eye out quick. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Okay. Speaker 2: , I take care of, well, I usually take care of two houses, so my girlfriend's house and mine, I cut, I have to cut the lawn. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Both of 'em and all that. When I'm out in the sun a lot and I'm on the mower. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 23 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I get, my eyes do get a little bit dryer that way. Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. , and does anyone in your, in your family have any, , diabetes or glaucoma or a- a age related eye- Speaker 2: My dad did. Speaker 1: Your dad did? Okay. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: ... Speaker 2: I mean, mom had diabetes and she wore glasses and stuff. , my grandmother, she had diabet- well, no, my, my mom's mom had diabetes. - Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And my uncle, my, my dad's brother, he had",
    "Speaker 1: ... Speaker 2: I mean, mom had diabetes and she wore glasses and stuff. , my grandmother, she had diabet- well, no, my, my mom's mom had diabetes. - Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And my uncle, my, my dad's brother, he had. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , all that. Speaker 1: Okay. , so how would you describe , your overall experience with being diagnosed with, oops. Being diagnosed with eye issues and just the exams and follow-ups and things. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 24 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. They're fine. They're not anything that... I said, the only thing that really bothers me is having these dang shots. Speaker 1: Yeah. , would you say that, that discourages you from using healthcare services related to your vision? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? Is there anything that discourages you from using, , vision-related healthcare services? Speaker 2: , not, not the, the, the vision stuff's fine. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , I, I, it's accessible enough to me that I can get over here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm",
    ", would you say that, that discourages you from using healthcare services related to your vision? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? Is there anything that discourages you from using, , vision-related healthcare services? Speaker 2: , not, not the, the, the vision stuff's fine. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , I, I, it's accessible enough to me that I can get over here. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , they, I said, they've done all that they can do, , as far I feel it anyways, I hope. Speaker 1: Yeah. - Speaker 2: Hope they didn't have some nanobot or something that could've went in there and cured everything I had, but- Speaker 1: Yeah. Some new technology. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 25 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: , could you share a positive or negative experience about using healthcare services that maybe has formed your attitudes towards seeking eye care? Any specific experience you can recall? Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I, I feel Dr. G cares. Speaker 1: Okay. That's good. Speaker 2: And that he's, he's very confident in what he does. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , he, he tries to be accommodating Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. - Speaker 2: So I mean, in that aspect, , everything seems good. Speaker 1: Yeah",
    "Speaker 2: And that he's, he's very confident in what he does. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And, , he, he tries to be accommodating Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. - Speaker 2: So I mean, in that aspect, , everything seems good. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I said, other than, the only thing that really ever discouraged me was I was hoping that this eye would be, , fixed. Speaker 1: Yeah. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 26 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: After that first, , even the second surgery. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: And the fact that I can't do the laser thing. I'm sure that can, that would help. And then he told me, he says, \"Well, if they ever have to go back in and do anything, that's when they're gonna have to do it.\" Because when I'm under in twilight, , they, . Speaker 1: Yeah. - Speaker 2: Which I, I woke, I woke completely up whenever they were the first time they did my, they, I, I worry that that was what happened with my, , that wrinkle thing, 'cause I, I woke up, I knew what was going on, and I just- Speaker 1: Wow. Speaker 2: I just tried to lay there and let them do what they were doing, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Did you have any sensation at all, or were you just awake? Speaker 2: Yeah, I, I knew what was going on and I could feel stuff and- Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , felt somebody was handling my eyeball, but I don't think that's what was happening. But, , and finally I thought, well, I better let 'em know what was going on",
    "- Speaker 2: Which I, I woke, I woke completely up whenever they were the first time they did my, they, I, I worry that that was what happened with my, , that wrinkle thing, 'cause I, I woke up, I knew what was going on, and I just- Speaker 1: Wow. Speaker 2: I just tried to lay there and let them do what they were doing, ? Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Did you have any sensation at all, or were you just awake? Speaker 2: Yeah, I, I knew what was going on and I could feel stuff and- Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: , felt somebody was handling my eyeball, but I don't think that's what was happening. But, , and finally I thought, well, I better let 'em know what was going on. And I'd, I'd been listening. Some of the conversations they have in the, in the operating room is , , and this one lady was talking about a date she was gonna have and all that. And I just, I, I was probably out just enough that I just felt free to say whatever I wanted to say. And I, and I, I said, \"So what's everybody else doing this weekend?\" ? And they were , \"Oh, you calm down. It's okay.\" Yeah. I was , \"I've been awake for 10 minutes.\" Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 27 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: That's interesting. And he goes, \"I'll try and hurry up.\" But he, , I said, \"Well, don't hurry.\" ? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But yeah, of course I couldn't see anything 'cause I don't know if it was from the Betadine or them doing the laser stuff on me or what, but- Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Everything just looked purple, ? But. Speaker 1: Okay. That's interesting. , so do you, , do you have someone to help you with, your daily diabetes care? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? Do you feel confident that you could, , you're doing it well on your own, ? Speaker 2: Well, I try. Speaker 1: Okay",
    "Speaker 1: Okay. That's interesting. , so do you, , do you have someone to help you with, your daily diabetes care? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? Do you feel confident that you could, , you're doing it well on your own, ? Speaker 2: Well, I try. Speaker 1: Okay. (Laughs) . Speaker 2: I mean, I could do a lot better. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaker 2: Usually I eat trash at night, but when I'm at work. Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 28 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I mean, I, I have a full kitchen of stuff for myself. I give groceries for work. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: And then I take something home to eat. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: And if I forget, then I'm stopping at Sheetz, or I'm stopping at, , something I'm bringing home hot dogs or- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , something, , tacos or something. But when I'm at work, I try and have, , some salad and I buy rotisserie chicken meat and things that",
    "Speaker 2: And then I take something home to eat. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: And if I forget, then I'm stopping at Sheetz, or I'm stopping at, , something I'm bringing home hot dogs or- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , something, , tacos or something. But when I'm at work, I try and have, , some salad and I buy rotisserie chicken meat and things that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: So something that I can try and eat a vegetable. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I, I have a garden, so I try and- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Include cucumbers in there, 'cause I love pickles, so I make a lot of bread and butter pickles or, , dill pickles or whatever. And I, , always have carrots and things that. I, I, I eat a lot of carrots and it's not really helping my vision. SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 29 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 30 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. (laughs) Speaker 2: But I mean, it, it, I'm sure it's doing, it, it, it probably is helping me more than, , I know. Speaker 1: Yeah. , well, what about , sharing, sharing any worries or fears about your diabetes or eyesight? Do you have someone that you feel comfortable doing that with? Speaker 2: Just Ed at work. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: We talk about stuff that a lot. Speaker 1: That's great",
    "Speaker 1: Yeah. , well, what about , sharing, sharing any worries or fears about your diabetes or eyesight? Do you have someone that you feel comfortable doing that with? Speaker 2: Just Ed at work. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Speaker 2: We talk about stuff that a lot. Speaker 1: That's great. That's good that you, , have someone. Is that the, the guy that is also going through the same? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Okay. Good. , so have you participated in a diabetes education class or ... . Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: No? , how much does your eyesight- Speaker 2: YouTube, maybe. Speaker 1: YouTube? Speaker 2: I, I do Speaker 1: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 31 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Self-paced class. Speaker 2: I do, I do watch a lot of, , or look up a lot of stuff about it, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: See if there's something that, that I would eat. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I don't avocados, but I guess they're probably pretty good for me that way",
    "Speaker 2: I do, I do watch a lot of, , or look up a lot of stuff about it, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: See if there's something that, that I would eat. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , I don't avocados, but I guess they're probably pretty good for me that way. And- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , I've been trying to eat more beets. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Because they tell me that those are good for my blood, my blood pressure. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: My blood sugar. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: , all that. So everything falls back to food... Speaker 1: I think it falls back to food with most people. , how much does your eyesight currently limit your ability to do things you want to do? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 32 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say 40% of the time. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Because if it hadn't been for this, I, I was going to change jobs. Speaker 1: Okay",
    ", how much does your eyesight currently limit your ability to do things you want to do? SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 32 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say 40% of the time. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Because if it hadn't been for this, I, I was going to change jobs. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: But a lot of jobs that I could do because of my education, I can't do with my eyes where they are. Yeah. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Does that feel discouraging to you? Speaker 2: To a point. Speaker 1: To a Point? Speaker 2: I mean, with, as anybody would do, but- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: It's not , okay, I have nothing left, thing. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2: I, I have a decent job. I mean, I'm, I don't make a ton of money, but I mean, I'm, I'm okay. I'm comfortable enough that I'm- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 33 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , still alive. Speaker 1: Yeah, of course",
    "I mean, I'm, I don't make a ton of money, but I mean, I'm, I'm okay. I'm comfortable enough that I'm- Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 33 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. , still alive. Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. , so just one more question for you. Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Speaker 1: , for today's visit, specifically, today's eye care visit, what were your expectations going in? Speaker 2: Get through it. Speaker 1: Get through it. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Speaker 2: It was nothing really, I mean, it, it's something that I have to do. Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: , it's just breathing. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: So, I mean, I, I know that I have to come in every month or every two months, and he told me no new bleeding, no, nothing that. Speaker 1: That's good. Speaker 2: That my eyes actually looked pretty decent for having gone. This was my first time going two months",
    "Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: So, I mean, I, I know that I have to come in every month or every two months, and he told me no new bleeding, no, nothing that. Speaker 1: That's good. Speaker 2: That my eyes actually looked pretty decent for having gone. This was my first time going two months. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 34 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Instead of every month. And at one point it was when the month was almost up and I needed to come in Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: I could see a decline. Speaker 1: Mm. Okay. Speaker 2: And now I'm, I didn't see a decline this time. Speaker 1: That's good progress. Speaker 2: And, and the time before that. So he said, \"Well, let's try every two.\" Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So I'm not having to come in every, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But, ",
    "Speaker 2: And, and the time before that. So he said, \"Well, let's try every two.\" Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: So I'm not having to come in every, . Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: But, . Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, it's something that I have to do and I just know it, and I don't look forward to the needles. Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say so. Speaker 2: The rest of it's fine. I mean, even the pictures that blind me for a second, , they have this big flash that goes across and- SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 35 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com This transcript was exported on Jun 17, 2025 - view latest version here. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: They want to hold on my eyelids and, . Speaker 1: Make it uncomfortable. Speaker 2: Yeah. It depends on who you, who you get that helps you. There was one woman, she, if it was up to her, she'd grab on my eyeball and aim it, . But- Speaker 1: , well, , that's all I have for you. Do you have any questions or comments or anything you'd want to include? Okay",
    "Speaker 2: Yeah. It depends on who you, who you get that helps you. There was one woman, she, if it was up to her, she'd grab on my eyeball and aim it, . But- Speaker 1: , well, , that's all I have for you. Do you have any questions or comments or anything you'd want to include? Okay. Speaker 2: No, not really. Speaker 1: . SM1021 (Completed 06/11/25) Page 36 of 36 Transcript by Rev.com"
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